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If you transplant a world class mathematician into a chemistry lab, do you expect similarly ground breaking results? Do you expect a top chemist to make major advances in mathematics?

The frontier labs are likely betting on lay observers (read: investors) confusing headline-grabbing results in abstract mathematics with phenomenal profitability in more grounded endeavours. There is an implicit fallacy that "If our models can solve mathematics they can do everything else."


A "massive amount of AI-powered effort" costs a ton of money. What's the return on investment for these frontier labs? Do headline-grabbing successes in mathematics translate to expected *profitability* in disciplines with more immediately quantifiable economic value.

The scientist allegedly making that request comes from a machine learning background. Perhaps he's not familiar with the culture in mathematics regarding authorship. That sort of squabbling over author priority would be unconscionable to mathematicians.

Bubeck is familiar with how publishing works in mathematics.

No, it's common to list authors alphabetically in a lot of computer science journals too.

They're also counting on more casual observers to extrapolate optimistically from successes in high profile math theorems to the company's economic value.

Hypo-dissipative NS != NS

Thanks, I wasn't aware of this technicality.

> But Tristan rejects the first, why? Because he thinks it's theft? But then why would OAI threaten him?

Did the first offer also come with the outrageous condition that he exclude his co-author from the credit?


But i don't understand what OAI is offering in the first offer to allow them to believe they can demand that? Not publishing before Tristan? If they really beat Tristan to the publication i would consider it truly morally corrupt conduct so i feel like you can't make an offer like if you give me something i won't be totally corrupt

As an author on the final proof once ready for publication, turning the brewing conflict into "willing" collaborators. Thus solving the potential taint like we are now seeing surrounding their announcement if it became public. But Tristan worked with another collaborator from Anthropic which OpenAI felt would hurt the PR value so wouldn't entertain.

Buckmaster is already an established world expert at these sorts of problems. Declining the Clay prize would hardly dent his career.


Wouldn't enterprises investing in their own hardware be more likely to buy standard 4-GPU or 8-GPU servers? Apple machines aren't really designed for server racks.


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